At 18 I was our fastest pitcher at 7.2, but most position players were well under 7. I would guess my son is a late bloomer by about 2.5 years, at 5'9, 130lb now. Stop when any part of runner crosses finish line. Track & field can be a life long sport, if youre not doing killer-mentality training at age 14, thus wearing out parts. We add in acceleration work with the sled and chute, but I use a very slight down hill for his top speed work. If they are looking at catchers, they probably put eyes on several, but may go to the stat sheet to see how the pop times compared and who they might have missed. The old bench press, curl, and squat guys are going extinct, thankfully. Hi, I dont know what to think of this race times that you wrote My son ran 100m race with 4 Years and two weeks for 26 seconds? As a freshman, T.J. was my starting quarterback for a team that went 9-0, outscoring their opponents 458-38. . Great post! Though you almost always have to sprint or workout to be actually fast. Too many ex-football players are addicted to the grind of football training. Glad I wasted my time reading this and some of the other data. Sprints must be timed. The current issue with sport is that these kids just compete year round. Im guessing she runs about an 8.2 as an old five year old just before her sixth bday. Any specific YouTube training videos anyone would recommend for short burst, form? Athletes get fast when they develop good sprint habits. What happens now in terms of my recruiting process? Thanks again for another great article Tony. He also had growing pains. I do this every year so teams that I have for three and four years it allows me to see who is developing, who is maturing biologically the fastest (hitting puberty), and who needs work and what he needs. Heres his 8th grade PRs from this years track season: Sticky No entrepreneurial coach should put training in conflict with playing multiple sports. Smoke, he met with the coach once, then worked out maybe 4 times on his own. Football coaches sometimes use the term track speed as a dog whistle for wimp speed. Only 4 days of varsity tryouts and 1 day of fielding and 3 days hitting. Tony Holler is the track coach at Plainfield North High School. He plays baseball, soccer, flag-football, and basketball. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Hes still not a candidate to run on my 41, but he sure looks fast on the football field. My DD just keeps getting slower lol. It depends on how it's timed but DD's 14u team posts their home to 1st times on our website and two players are below 3.0 (best 2.75). It can also show who has the fastest speed on a fly route. If you see a Freelap timing system, you know youre on the right track. I believe then because i ran 5.54 in 40yrds when i was 9 im 14 now and i run 4.4. Recruiting guidelines offer a good benchmark for student-athletes to compare themselves with athletes competing at the college level. Parents strategize. In my experience Ive not seen one kid specialize that went on to the level they thought they wanted to go to! RJ, Exact same scenario for mine. He tops out at 85. Anyone ever watch the little guys make the fake swing and start running to 1st base while the LL coach is yelling at them to "go throughgo through"? My 2017 son's experience was probably a bit of an anomaly but going into this past summer his best "official" 60 was 7.0. When kids compete for an hour, theyre never sprinting. Average time by position [ edit] According to a five-year NFL combine report, wide receivers and cornerbacks had the fastest average times at 4.48, followed by running backs at 4.49. Thanks for this great poste. Compare yourself with the chart below. It would be great to speak to you let me know a time that works for you. It has been speculated that in his prime, Usain Bolt might have been able to run a sub-4.0 40. It also gives the player their home to first time. Your email address will not be published. In my opinion it is better to play at a school with a weaker program than to sit the bench a a school with a strong program. Contact their program and go watch their off season workouts. I've seen teams full of the tiny fast kids and if a ball is hit to the fence it can sometimes take 3 kids to get the ball to home platethat's just not going to cut it when there are 14u kids that are 6'0 and 160#'s that can strong arm it all the way to the plate. Please contact the developer of this form processor to improve this message. My 10yr old daughter ran the 80metre dash in 9.32secs. Yes, considering your age, a 40-yard dash time of 4.9 seconds is very good. He won all the races he ran last Wednesday so I know hes fast I was just wondering how fast he is, once again thanks for the information. Same with football. And I dont have an amazing start. Video must be analyzed. It amazes me that this is still not understood (or is it all about not wanting to share the success of the athlete?). They need to wear track spikes. Soccer is an endurance sport. And if you're teetering between getting a college offer, or making the league, the 40 yard dash can be the event that pushes you over the edge. I do not. This is complete BS. T.J. went out for the track team and got fast. if you're generally regarded as very fast, then the 3.41 is probably your 30 time. I dont want to over train him. Keep in mind in high school your 9th grader could very easily be pitted against a 17 year old senior. All times in article are handheld. Im a believer in specificity. I have run through 40yd to compare acceleration to top speed theres always a 0.7-0.8 difference for me, so dont believe the site that compares an insane 11 second and I repeat insane 100m to a 4.85 40yd. 1.45 seconds. 20m or 20 yard Sprint Test Results. Former D1 baseball player and NJCAA coach Nelson Gord breaks down what skills D1 college coaches look for in both right-handed and left-handed pitchers. OBP: .450 Slugging: .550 (minimum 2 at bats per game) Training and maintaining proper posture along with spinal erector strength development have made our team FAST. He was best at throwing and catching a football. JavaScript is disabled. Once the weather allows we will do some out door parachute work to work on that time. It factors weight into a player's 40-yard dash time assigning a premium to fast times run by bigger, often spaner, running backs. purpose: The aim of this test is to determine . Both measure lateral speed and quickness. Required fields are marked *. Dont even bother to time a 40 Yd. 2. You cannot simply have them run the same was as a 60, you need them with a bat in hand and see how quickly they get out of the box. Luckily, there are several. I would encourage those out there who have a player willing to put in the work to get this training if you can afford it. High school sports were covered by the local radio station and daily newspaper. 100M 11.71 HH Let's dissect the 100 meters. Please contact the developer of this form processor to improve this message. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Ive been on Coach Kanes football staff for eleven years. I tried training him for sprinting, but he mostly wants to have fun on the race track and wants to race whoever is jogging on the race track. Old 2 year old: 13.3 Athletes instinctively switch to auto-pilot, choosing efficiency and survival. 20 yard Pro Agility 6 Tire Zig Zag I also understand that the origin of the 60 is that it matches home to 2nd base. Considering though that shes only in the 50th percentile so far as height, that seems pretty solid. They offered her based on her current size and speed. My guy's was more along the lines of Go44's thoughts. Copyright 2023 SimpliFaster. Kid, I wouldn't move your son, unless he REALLY wants to change schools. 60 Yard & 30 Yard Dash. Very interesting comments but do you mind explaining to me what you mean by FAT.? A local 2016 D1 recruit, whose parents apparently had money to burn, went to SIX showcases from 2012-2016. This means that Bolt is running at an average pace of 0.096 seconds per meter. You can get better coaching at those private lessons you spoke about and your kid might get more playing time on a less competitive team than he would on a team loaded with 6ft+ kids. The best indicator of sprint ability is max-speed. Mindless weight lifting, grueling aerobic workouts, and multiple repeats of 200 meters have no place in sprint training. Like you said in the article, kids rarely fully sprint during practice, so am I on the right track by having his do speed and acceleration work on his off days? Or what? Size is not as important for centerfielders, but a prototypical Division I centerfield recruit is generally between 5'9'' and 6'2'' while weighing between 175 and 210 pounds. On average, their front 20 yards clocked in at 2.85, while their back 20 came in at 2.06. A study published in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research found that the hand-timed method produces average 40 times 0.31 seconds faster, and as much as 0.42 seconds faster. They recommended that there is no special sprint training at the club. But not in weightlifters, even when they have accidents involving massive amounts of weight. Less than two percent of high school players go on to play Division 1 college baseball, but there are more opportunities at the other division levels. What skill sets should individual position players have? go to da moon copy and paste. Tim has always promoted my speed training. The average speed for the 40-yard Dash and the 20-yard Dash is around 8.4 seconds, but variations are above or below this time, depending on factors such as player body weight and running surface. I am member of US lacrosse and football USAA certified coach in both. She's 5-3 or 5-4 and is a muscular 135. Is this a reasonable expectation of improvement year over year as the player gets older and matures? We're sorry. My prodigious offspring runs a 5.2 60 as a 15 y/o while dragging an obdurate mule behind him. After a while, I was starting to think that I should move up and start doing 800m more but then I started doing a speed school and focused on top speed and acceleration. Rest, recovery, and growth must be respected. 1. A 60 yard dash time between 6.7 - 6.9 usually equate to an average runner on the playing field. Check out Claytons 40 times in the graph below. Any idea how the kid is doing in college? Based on the graphs below, we expect T.J.s speed numbers to improve. Coaches are watching, before the game, between game action and after the game to see how a prospect carries themselves. Most kids learn to play their sport but never learn to sprint. Then, depending on your age, we multiply the resulting percentage by the appropriate WMA Factor. You might see this as a natural relationship between a football coach and a track coach, but its often the opposite. Or youre lying. Mine was 3x week. I found this and have not used it yet but it may be a starting point. ( bigger stronger and much faster) I was told the only way to post a better time is to do another PG showcase (The WWBA and the other PG tournaments do not have a timed 60 run only PG showcases). Therefore, no sleds, no parachutes, no resistance, no sprint training against the wind. This is the fastest 10-split by any combine runner in my database (starting in 2003). Develop, fun, develop, fun, age appropriate coaches, and programs that are focused on developing will help your son immensely. Get focused on skill development. Percentile Vertical Jump Pro-Agility Run 10-Yard Dash 40-Yard Dash Rank Inches Seconds Seconds Seconds 99 21.25 < 4.62 > 1.87 > 5.02 > 95 21 4.63 - 4.64 1.88 - 1.89 5.03 - 5.04 He ran the 6.34 first.the scouts all thought they timed him wrong so they had him run again. Scouts and coaches all over the U.S. put a huge amount of weight into the 40 yard dash. She is getting faster and faster. Am I good enough to play college baseball? How good do you have to be? These are two questions that student-athletes ask most. Oh, my best lineman (5'9" 225) ran a 5.45 so guess who is pulling on my counter plays. The average improvement isn't quite as dramatic as the blog's .5 second but there is an improvement in times at roughly the 50th percentile. Anytime. All she cares about is being fast, oh and loving Jesus. Any 17u teams in Illinois I can still register and play for this summer? Thanks for the input as I always look for ways to improve my coaching skills. I live on Long Island New York . I would encourage you to have him not work with anything lighter than a drop 5, going from a drop 10 to a drop 3 has been really tough for many of the smaller kids. Based on the above, the numbers from the blog seem fairly accurate. Tony, do you have age based tables on the 40 yard dash? 5 years 26-30 seconds Its been 3 months and I dropped my 40m time from 5.00 to 4.72 hand timed. This is a eight-year study. Kids should perform all sprint training in a non-fatigued state. and then he kills it. Im a personal trainer, and Im totally with you! Story - while I was at PG this summer, I was speaking to a LOT of college coachesjust because I am very chatty. You get a feel for when they added velocity &how their physical growth tracked along with that. However, I think it helps his athletic abilities. Kids ask all the time how do I get faster and I tell them you have to run fast. Prospects looking to get recruited cant control when they develop or what coaches think of them. You can also search past threads on the topic. We just can't report what we don't see. DD who isn't a speedster was 4th fastest at 3.18. I have been lucky to coach the boys in football and lacrosse for 11 years. Jan 3, 2012. I had to wait for mine to buy in before I was willing to spend the $$ ( he is 14). You still need to showcase and attend camps in my opinion. No way an 8 year old can run this fast. T.J. Kane was a typical athletic kid. Division 1 catchers swing the bat well and usually can hit for power or average at a high level OBP: .500 Slugging: .600 (minimum 2 at bats per game) Pop Time: 1.95 and below consistently (verified by a neutral source) ERA below 2.00 Division 2 Height: 6'0" Weight: 180 lbs. Deion Sanders at the 1989 NFL combine ran a 4.27 second 40 yard dash. If I had to do only one test for athletic ability it would be the bear crawl. College baseball scouts evaluate players by arm strength, fielding range, speed, and hitting for power and average. Sprinting is neurological, not muscular. Oh, and BTW. Hi, theo coumbis lds; average 40 yard dash time by age chart female I just read about a 13 yr old that has agreed to attend Washington. The only time I really look at breakway (40) is for my CB and RB and WR. . average 40 yard dash time by age chart female. i ran a 3.41, i think my time in the 40 wouldve been pretty good but they only measured the 20 what would b a good time for the 20 yard dash if u just turned 29 weigh 280 lbs? Old 3 year old: 10.7 I do implement sprint training with my combat athletes, as they tend to transfer that into mat area. If sprinting is not timed, its not sprinting. Then, 0.2 sec thereafter. Thank goodness great coaching minds have put the kibosh on that. The 10m fly is a much better predictor of success than the 10m start. Anything where they change direction a couple of times. It has been speculated that in his prime, Usain Bolt might have been able to run a sub-4.0 40. . I would be really interested to see how things work out. Forum contains unread posts, Topic Icons: Since youre herewe have a small favor to ask. Sub-max sprinting will not make kids faster. I know he is fast, but we'll see what translates down the road. Repeatedly seen him make plays in CFunlike any other (really trying to be objective - his coach has said the same thing). I completely agree with Tony. My point is that freaks can play 2-4 sports. -- Vince Lombardi, On another note, how fast a kid can run in a straight line doesn't tell me anything about what position he is going to playjmo. This year I was trying to compile times and weights of my players in an attempt to formulate Hit Scores. Look at the difference in his timing in the last two months from 26 seconds to 22 seconds. What will often separate recruits in the mind of coaches is how serious a prospect takes their sport. I informally timed my 12u CF (2022)with an 8.0. 3.80 meter long jump They are going to be following up with their coach(es) to see how seriously they take their training. Alactic training is maximum intensity work for less than ten seconds followed by enough rest to repeat the effort on the next attempt. I coach in a soccer academy for kids born in 2012 so they are either 6 or 7 years old right now. The first half of the run is pretty much in line with our rough expectations. I believe every football player should sprint train consistently starting at the end of football, continuing through the track season, and into the summer. How fast can Usain Bolt run the 40 yard dash? I had several in the 4.0 range including a 10 year old @135lbs. I would also mention that if you have the opportunity to see players race against each other at the 20 yard distance, it's helpful. Participant. "A boy comes to me with a spark of interest and it becomes a flame. That is, there are far fewer players attending PG showcases and having a 60 time recorded at the younger age than the metrics reported in the older ages. Most boys have played football for several years before they enter high school. Outfielders: Should cover ground, field anything hit to their position and make strong accurate throws.-Height: 5'10''-Weight: 175 lbs.-60 Yard Dash: 6.8 or below-Home to 1st: Right-Handed Hitter: 4.2 or faster, Left-Handed Hitter: 4.1 or faster What skills do D1 college coaches look for when recruiting first basemen? You have to play. I think you could look at those and establish a baseline or average. The distance from the baseline to the opposite service line is 20 yards. 0.5 sec per year from age 11 until 15. My wife is a doctor. average 20 yard dash time by age chart . Actually she's not horrible at 14 as she runs anywhere from 3.05-3.25 as a Catcher. I would only add that going to a school with a " strong " HS program can help but only if you arent a bench warmer. I cannot emphasize this enough. Same with baseball. So, from a statistics standpoint (and PGStaff could confirm), I would assume that as the further the graduation date (i.e., younger player), the smaller you sample size in the numbers from PG. Some coaches do not care about it and others do. The following average times were measured between 2000 and 2012 at the NFL combine for players who played at least 5 games. Claytons additional marks at age 9. Rigghhhhhht. Here's the crazy thing. Hi! If you don't see that going well then neither will the coach, and your boy won't make the team or he will be the bench warmer until that growth spurt hits. 40 yard- 6.3 seconds. P.S I have never had sprint training just playing soccer, basketball, tennis, football, and skiing. Results via Freelap and visual reinforcement are key. You might as well be wearing ankle weights (dont wear ankle weights either). Good luck to you in masters track & field. If they arent wearing spikes, they arent sprinting. Theyre playing 2-3 games a week and practicing the rest all basketball season, not to mention the summer open gyms that they have to attend. In fact Ive seen kids quit and not play in college because theyve been falsely pumped up by athletic enhancement gurus or AAU coaches and when they didnt get a D1 offer they thought lower levels were beneath them. Current Visitors: 158 (0 members, 158 guests). (verified by a third party), Infield velocity: Division 1 middle infield recruits will throw the ball across the diamond anywhere between 85 MPH 95 MPH, The prototypical Division I middle infield recruit can hit for high average as well as steal a lot of bases and occasionally hit for power, Infield Velocity: Low 80s and above MPH from SS, Slugging: .450 (minimum 2 at bats per game), Infield velocity: 8795+ MPH from the outfield, OF velocity: 87+ MPH (verified by a neutral source), Slugging: at least 5 HRs as a high school junior and senior, Velocity from the OF: low 80s at least, with the potential to improve, Slugging: Multiple HRs as a high school junior and senior. A twenty-year-old male usually runs the distance in about five seconds, while a thirty-year-old male has an average 40 yard dash time of 3.7 seconds. Every sprint must be less than five seconds in length. My assumption is that thereis a significant increase in participants within the same graduation class over time to their Jr year. After that he ran a 6.59 at HF. Note: Im talking sprint training. He was recruited for Catcher. Curious if people think summer travel and showcases, along with private coaching, will be enough for the right exposure. *Measure 30 yards (90 feet) and 60 yards (180 feet) in the outfield. DII Outfielder: 60 Yard Dash: 7.0 or below Home to 1st Time: 4.4 (RHH) 4.3 (LHH) Throwing Velocity: 82 + Ball Exit Velocity: 88 + Coaches are looking for the best fits for their team. If it is something extra good, we follow up. When you block a person, they can no longer invite you to a private message or post to your profile wall. Check out the video below for tips from former D1 baseball player and NJCAA coach Nelson Gord. No Practices? I will update this for the group in the hope that it helps to benchmark for others. Average Ht/Wt & 40 time in DI, D2 and D3 Average 20-yard dash time for high school softball is approximately 3.5 seconds; NCAA softball is approximately 3.1 seconds. My technique was raw back then, so I think I could be faster now. Sorry about the link. If you are 6.5, then they probably start getting interested in how quickly you can get down the line, especially if you are a left handed batter. 180'=60 yds. My times for the 8th graders ranged from 8.5 down to a 5.21. Start at the baseline and have someone time you from the baseline to service line. Coaches will often push and pull things to train acceleration. Strength relative to your body weight matters. RELATED : 40-Yard Dash Tips . My son Carters progression goes as follows: Are colleges moving more toward the recorded speeds of a player going from the plate to first? Sprinting must be taught and practiced. If the parent does not understand this, it leaves the youth athlete out in the cold. New PR for overhand velocity. That is pretty darn fast. This is an average of 4:34 per mile for 26.2 miles. 2 seasons ago, I had two athletes run four.73 on the same day. While all measurables were taken at each showcase the home page of the player shows you the best times/speed in those categories. Winning isn't everything, but the will to win is everything. Metcalf 's 10-yard split of his 4.33-second 40-yard dash clocked in at 1.45 seconds. At that age, that's darn fast. We mostly do 100 meter running. {{#message}}{{{message}}}{{/message}}{{^message}}Your submission failed. I dont have enough training awareness to recognize things he could do, other than just saying go faster. The link doesn't seem to beworking - for me, anyway. I live in the Atlanta area, and I can say with certainty that while some colleges are going to high school baseball games they are more likely to go to a showcase or to watch a travel team play. 110HH 15.10 FAT *New Jersey Crew (973 and 201)* you jus mad cuz im stylin' on ya??
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