My Dovakiin takes this. Plus, he lost his divine spark. I give them 5/5 because they are both protagonists but I am honestly rooting for HoK a bit more here. Locations: Skyrim - Wilderness and Cyrodiil - The Arena. The only thing LDB had was being a larger concentration of Akatosh's soul. In oblivion I think the player has the so called "dragon blood" but you are not DragonBorn For me though it creates excellent role playing purposes, my oblivion character is the same guy as my skyrim character, since high elves can live up to 1000 years, his life span has made it from oblvion to skyrim, he has dragon blood but he has not had his "true powers" bleached yet He could effortlessly solo anyone in all of Cyrodiil to the point where he was wiping out entire cities for amusement. I'm fairly certain the Hero was the first and last mortal to ever defeat Sheogorath. Nice idea for a battle indeed. The Champion of Cyrodiil had no special powers or anything, simply had the grace of the Gods. They can use anything from their respective DLCs. The Hero of Kvatch by all accounts should be a male Imperial (if you go by the current incarnation of Sheogorath) and was also not a Dragonborn. Im pretty sure my drgnbrn takes out my kvatch character . Elder Scrolls is a FANDOM Games Community. The Dragonborn finds the Elder Scroll is a Dwemer Ruin called Tower of Mzark and uses it at the Throat of the World to witness how the Ancient Nord Heroes have defeated Alduin and learns the Shout from them. Pre transformation into godhood: The Last Dragonborn. Another way to look at it might be Akatosh/Auriel vs Shor/Shezzar/Lorkhan. The Hero of Kvatch, Champion of Cyrodiil eventually became a full blown Daedric Prince through some twisted Apotheosis, and now stands as the Daedric equal to anything the Aedra can throw at him. Mega stomp in favor of my Champion of Cyrodiil. He was simply the agent of fate chosen for that particular crisis. In the midst of the fight, the Emperor hands the Hero an amulet — The Amulet of Kings — and tells the hero to bring it to Jauffre. My Champion of Cyrodill is a speedster. HeroMachine 3 is the most advanced, powerful character creation tool on the web. Eventually the Hero and the Emperor are cornered in a small room whilst his bodyguards engage several Mythic Dawn agents. On the other hand my Dragonborn was having trouble with trolls. Idk I might be wrong. Sheogorath has been defeated by mortals who've mantled him before, so he may not be as tough as people imply. Rules: 1. Goes to Skryim and learns that she is Dragonborn and it is once again up to her to save the day. Wiki User Answered . The Dragonborn has become the Champion of Hermaeus Mora, and has access to all the knowledge of that prince. Aedra are weaker than Daedra in general, Lorkhan is the weakest of Aedra, since he gave most of his power -- more than the other Aedra -- in creating Mundus. Historically only Nords or those of Nord blood (such as the Septim line) are Dragonborn. Can't find Jyggalag's actual in-game stats, but Sheogorath is listed as the most powerful character in Oblivion. Team can use any and all spells accessible in their games. Thanks for watching! Post transformation into godhood: I'm not sure. If the two fought there'd be another Dragon break. Granted, this is mainly because I have absolutely no idea who The Courier and Lone Wanderer are. He never fatigued and was strong enough to 2 shot a Daedra Lord. Even if he and the Hero of Kvatch were equal in all the skills, the Dragonborn has shouts and the Hero does not. He is more resourceful and have greater power. The sorcerer had promised him thousands in gold of he could go through that portal, climb to the top of Cronus, and bring back Pandora's box. Speed is equalized. Remember that LDB was basically helpless when Molag Bal manifested in Markarth and it wasn't even his avatar. Kratos had done it. The Dragonborn. Hi! blaseblah, Nov 13, 2019 #41. Dovahkiin. By doing this, he essentialy becomes stronger and more powerful than any other character in the Elder Scrolls universe. Throughout the series, a number of Daedric Princes, along with the other worshipped gods, play a major part in the events of the main storyline. If we assume the Hero of Kvatch gets to use his Sheogorath powers while the Last Dragonborn uses the full power of his dragon shouts and potential godly Shor power, then the battle would be pretty even if the fight happens in Tamriel since a Deadra's power is much weaker outside of their realm while Mundus is essentially part of the Nine Divine's realm, thus Shor/Talos would have a significant power boost from … Both characters have everything that YOU had while playing them, so they can only use the shouts you unlocked and the armour you had etc. Nameless One vs Nerevarine, Hero of Kvatch and Dragonborn Thread starter Rookie12; Start date Sep 19, 2014; Prev. If we were to completely ignore the potential godly powers they would have access to then it gets more interesting. Game Mechanics Hero of Kvatch get stomped. 0 1 2. The Dovahkiin, at base, has almost half the power of a Daedric Prince. Who is stronger the hero of kvatch or the dragonborn? And that was Jyggalag, not Sheogorath. The little extra that made him a god with the powers to boot, gone. Required level: 2; Sheogorath's followers are a bunch of weirdos. Both get 5 mins of prep. The Last Dragonborn using the dragon aspect shout and all of their Daedric artifacts against the Hero of Kvatch with their artifacts and Sigil stone enchented gear is a cimplicated fight to think through. He was also able to fight in rags and had so much endurance that he could shrug off enemy blows on max difficulty, and had 100% spell reflection via enchantments. Soon after, he is killed by a Mythic Dawn assassin who c… My hero of Kvatch would easily win both battles as he had 100% reflect damage and ran at about 500mph, but he was also a Skooma addict. If I had to guess, I'd say DB vs HoK would go to DB but Sheo would win over DB, Talos boost or not. I hit like 300 per hand in skyrim(and some people hit like 30,000).... not including like 130 enchant damage per hand. so theoreticaly after deafting lets say 100 dragons during the main storyline, the two dragons from dawnguard, and the tree dragons fro dragonborn plus obsorbing miraacks 150 dragon soulls means heprobabily has a power level equil if not greater than that of alduins. Follow 345. Good for taking on a wide variety of content both gameplay-wise and lore-wise. It also explains how the Dragonborn is essentialy mantling Talos/Shor/Lorkhan. Character Ancillaries - For important characters, such as Sotha-Sil, Molag Bal, Hero of Kvatch, etc ... Large starting armies - Global starting wars (Empire vs Dominion, Morrowind vs Blackmarsh)- Experienced starting generals ... 4E - 201 A year that will go down in history and legend both, the year of the last Dragonborn. There is a theory by Roshank Redemption that explains the possibility of the Dragonborn being an incarnate of Shor/Lorkhan. You got a Daedric Prince 100% God that should be stronger than Divines who didn't have any special powers to overcome stronger foes than him. The Elder Scrolls IV: Knights of the Nine. Terrowin, Dragonborn and savior of Skyrim embarks on a quest to form an alliance with the great heroes of Tamriel's past. Maybe it's my Oblivion bias but I'm leaning towards HoK being the tougher of the two. Pfft, my Hero of Kvatch wrecks by Dragonborn... because I didn't make it that far with my Dragonborn in the game at all... My DragonBorn would wreck my champion of Cyrodill. I spent too much time getting the best gear. The Eternal Champion, Hero of Daggerfall, Nerevarine, and Hero of Kvatch. The Mage: Skills based on magical abilities. 2. Quote: He had reached the top of the Temple of Fate and fought his way through everything Ares had sent after him. Not the world's greatest hero and the guildmaster of every guild. With game mechanics "Vague Shrug" Its just a contest of which system is more broken. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Debates. Though the passing of millennia made the prophecy all but forgotten, it was nonetheless true, and the one who … AU: The former Hero of Kvatch and now Daedric Prince returns to Tamriel to find the land in turmoil. Your Dragonborn vs Your Hero of Kvatch CairoV. First off, let's stick to The Elder Scrolls. Without game mechanics Dragonborn ragdolls, soul rips, mind rapes etc (Prior to the Champion of Cyrodill becoming Sherogath, obvs). The precise nature of the Hero's crime, if any, that led to their arrest is unspecified. Yea, I have seen the bow trick where you can deal ridiculous amounts of damage on skyrim. Instead of the hero of Kvatch they go OMG it's the Dragonborn! Second of all, Shor is much weaker than a Daedric Prince. Dragonborn gets to meet the champion at the end of the quest The Call of Gray Cowl of Nocturnal, but in the form of Sheogorath. The Dovahkiin, also known as The Last Dragonborn, is the main protagonist and player character of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Only without Trinimac this time In the beginning of the game, the Hero is locked away in the Imperial Prison. N… Especially since I abused the hell out of all those enchant exploits last time I played.... Lore Hero of Kvatch stomps because he became Sheogorath. An example would be the hero of kvatch. Speed. My oblivion character was an imperial named Claudius zarion, most used a one handed silver sword and a few spells. Daedric Prince > Dragonborn > Nerevarine. what most dont under stand is tht dragons are pieces of a god. Sorry! The Champion of Cyrodiil, also known as The Hero of Kvatch, is the player character and main protagonist in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. See Answer. The Dragonborn in Skyrim is not The Hero of Kvatch from The Game, Oblivion. Dragonborn vs Hero of Kvatch; User Info: elacruisay13. The Hero of Kvatch survived multiple solo trips into the Deadlands so I'm honestly not sure. The Hero of Kvatch vs Dragonborn » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:59 pm . If we assume the Hero of Kvatch gets to use his Sheogorath powers while the Last Dragonborn uses the full power of his dragon shouts and potential godly Shor power, then the battle would be pretty even if the fight happens in Tamriel since a Deadra's power is much weaker outside of their realm while Mundus is essentially part of the Nine Divine's realm, thus Shor/Talos would have a significant power boost from fighting there while Seogorath would be weakend by the location. Dragonborn is wearing Dragon Plate gear and Hero of Kvatch is wearing Imperial Dragon gear. He is invulnerable to all damage with nothing but pants on. ... Those who become Emperor and light the Dragonfires are surely Dragonborn - the proof is in the wearing of the Amulet and the lighting of the Fires. Asked by Wiki User. And my Nerevarine would have to finally get off his lazy ass, leave his century long Akaviri hunting trip vacation and get back to work. By the end of Dragonborn, they have Bend Will and the soul of the First Dragonborn, putting … Enchanting them,reinforcing them. Getting all the shouts. Vs. Page 2 of 6 - The Nerevarine vs The Hero of Kvatch vs Dovahkin - posted in General Skyrim Discussion: I resent that thalmor comment as I am (in skyrim) an altmer player and support the thalmor. I like this hypothetical. They are a legendary Hero whose coming was long foretold by the Elder Scrolls, and said to coincide with the return of Alduin, as the only one who will be able to challenge and stop the World-Eater. I have decided to no longer show my gamertag due to an ever increasing amount of random friend requests. If it is HoK after he mantled Sheogorath and Dragonborn after absorbing more Dragon Souls and defeating Miraak... HoK without a doubt. The hero of Kvatch! Elder Scrolls is a FANDOM Games Community. The Dragonborn pulled himself up to the top of the massive building on this ghastly giants back. At the height of his power he ran so fast, he froze the game. BTW Slow time+soul tear gg. Weird I always have views varying from many in this forum... Before end of the game, such as LDB bsorbing Miraak and all the Dragon Souls he might have and before HoK mantling Sheogorath. How would the fight go? The seventh Champion of Cyrodiil, also known as Hero of Kvatch plays an important role in the events of the mod The Gray Cowl of Nocturnal. How do you think he became god of the underworld in the first place? Forum Posts. The Hero was placed in a cell that is supposed to be off-limits due to a mix up in their placement (something that is said to happen often). This is Endgame Dragonborn with access to all weapons, magic, shouts, and items. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. His pixels aren't even agile enough to dodge my Dovahkiin (jokes). "It seemed like a good idea then..." The Dragonborn grumbled under his breath as he picked up his sword and opened the doors at the top. Dragons are smaller pieces of that being thus making them gods as well. My Hero of Kvatch (also is Sheogorath if I include the DLC) wins with so much easy. there was one a being called aka that broke apart. An then the Hero of Kvatch is named the new Sheogorath. Bump. The Elder Scrolls Universe: This a land of Gods and Deadra, of magic and mystery, of sky high mountains and migratory trees. I think there's still a chance for KoV to overcome LDB because I think many people neglected the fact that Hero of Kvatch managed to defeat Jyggalag without any special abilities. He could jump 10-15 feet in the air from a standing position and outrun a horse WITHOUT his magical enchantments. So not all of either's power was there to be brought forth on the Hero of Kvatch. Lets first take a look at the universes they could fight in, as this could change the game. The Hero of Kvatch is the main character of the video-game Oblivion and (if the player completed the Shivering Isles DLC) a minor protagonist in Oblivion's sequel, Skyrim. elacruisay13 8 years ago #31. So varius would most likely win because Claudius' spells wouldn't work very well on varius. The Dragonborn has the soul of a dragon and could use shouts on … If your hero of kvatch and last dragon born had a duel to the death (no followers, no outside help) who would win? 0. The Hero of Kvatch is no stranger to overcoming foes or situations where the foe is far stronger than him without any special powers. Before you try to burn me on stake, listen to my rationale first. 2013-05-29 13:01:09. I know this story is incomplete, but there is only so much you can do in a ten minute video! The agent was immune to magic, the Nervernarine was immune to diseases, poison, blight, and was ageless. I'd like to see an Elder Scrolls where you are just another person. the three largest pieces became alduin akatosh and auriel. Jokes on you, I don't play Elder Scrolls. Low 2-C Vs. 2-B, however I think this matchup will prove quite interesting. When encountered in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion he gives the Hero of Kvatch the quest "Seeking Your Roots." While Claudius has more experience than varius, varius is more suited to fighting people, Claudius is a monster hunter more suited to fighting monsters, the undead, etc. The cycle of the Greymarch only needed to be broken once, which only the Hero has ever done. The Dragonborn is told to meet the Greybeards' leader, the dragon Paarthurnax who tells them how to learn the shout by using an Elder Scroll. Seeking to escape from the attempt on his life, the Emperor fled through a … Originally a prisoner trapped within the Imperial City dungeons, the Champion's journey began when Emperor Uriel Septim VII was attacked by assassins of the Mythic Dawn Cult. hohohohohohoho. First of all, that's only a theory. !” in skyrim i’m voting for that. Many things about the hero are left to the player's choice, including theirname and gender. There isn't anything remarkable about the Hero of Kvatch apart from having guts and skill. Arceus has all of the Elemental Plates. By this rationale, the Last Dragonborn would just be a foe far stronger than him due to having special powers. The Last Dragonborn is directly sanctioned by Akatosh, an immortal Dovah walking on two legs prophesied to stop the World Eater from destroying the world, a fate that is not yet clear. Yeah, but Shor is dead. Sheogorath has been defeated by mortals who've mantled him before, so he may not be as tough as people imply. 2600:1700:7130:B4A0:645E:B3D6:C846:410 wrote: Yes but didn’t the other Daedric princes make Jyggalag into Sheogorath because he was causing all sorts of destruction and was too powerful? A Hero or Heroine, sometimes described as being doom-driven or referred to as a Prisoner, is a mortal blessed (and cursed, from another point of view) with a special fate and the ability to rule their own destiny.Heroes are closely related to the prophecies revealed in the Elder Scrolls, but are not bound by them.They often grow to become far more powerful than most other mortals. Beating all the strongest enemies within the game including Karstagg. The characters can use any and all spells including summoning spells. Considering … Thourn the Dragonborn beats Harrick of Kvatch in a good fight. Ok, let's look at the CoC damaging the Dragonborn then. While my skyrim character is varius zarion (he's from the same family as Claudius) who uses a steel sword with a fire enchantment (named flamestrike) and a shield which gives him resistance to magic. Given my Skyrim main is a mage.... Yah.... without cheating 700 is around max health. Jacksper wrote: Top Answer. the dragonborn has the soul of a dragon so he is a god and he absorbes dragon soulls thus making him more powerful. Most dragonborn are good, but those who side with evil can be terrible villains. After some conversation, Sheogorath allows the spirit of the Champion to come out and talk to the Dragonborn. Hero of Kvatch at the height of his power is a daedric prince. Basically, it would be Sheogorath vs Shor, a godly war. I would put it 5/5. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Taking a look at a few things from the games' storylines it is also obvious that the Nerevarine is stronger than Dovahkiin, and possibly even the strongest of all TES heroes (except maybe for the hero of Kvatch during the Shivering Isles DLC, maybe he still is in present time *won't give the big spoiler to this just in case you haven't played Oblivion*). In a straight up fight they might be able to tank the LDB. They have Bend Will and the soul of a Daedric Prince think this matchup prove! 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