Perhaps you should ask a different question. The more you add, the flatter it gets. You should be okay if you do it lightly. there is nothing wrong with lacquer per se. The key is to spray light, mist coats and not soak the surface. the rattle cans is the same stuff as the bottle, juset that you need to thin the stuff in the bottle before you spray it. some say to use it. I also have a few rattle cans of MM laquer. The eyes were masked off and got a glossy coat using Tamiya X-22 "Clear Gloss" applied with a brush. Stupid eats on the other side of the room. Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 02:21 PM UTC. It is called Tamiya Flat Base, right? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I ordered some tamiya base and i have a bottle of future to thin it out. Buy It Now. Just a heads up on some of these labeled cans that may still be in circulation. I've been having a real problem airbrushing various brands of acrylic clear flat coats. Some people say dont use laquer. From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:43 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tamiya Flat Clear TS-80 spray can I’ve had sputtering rattle cans of Dullcoat ruin freight car finishes. Of course, thats all a matter of personal taste! No outright frosting, like you get if you spray Tamiya Flat Base straight, but varying degrees of a dusty layer that looks more like weathering than a clear coat. but litter fumes don't kill brain cells, just make you.... :D I hate cats and their smell, plus the damn things shed and hairs get in your models.... anyways, I had to claim my minute of anger.   Pasted as rich text. By The main problem is that no matter what formulas, brands, thinning ratios or ritual dances to the modeling gods I use, I always end up with a finish that makes the model look dusty. I used one on a `copter and it was fine, next day I used it on a jet and...disaster! Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:12 AM UTC, Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:13 AM UTC. It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat. I still want to try pollyscale, every review claims to be the flat coat from the gods... would see. Allow the paint to be clear-coated to fully cure before applying TS80. This batch has since been recalled from major retaillers but I have seen a few still on the market in smaller outlets. If either Clear or Flat Base … Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 04:34 PM UTC. Tamiya's Clear Flat in a jar is also very good. I haven't used Model Master dull or gloss to know if they yellow over time though. It can be mixed in varying amounts with gloss acrylic (only) paints to produce any desired level of reflectance, including Tamiya clear gloss coat. My best success (if you want to call it that) seems to have been with my thinned mixture of Vallejo Model Color Matte Varnish with a couple drops of Liquitex Flo-Aid added. I've never used this product before, but my understanding is that it is specifically intended for use as a final coat (and is a different product than Tamiya Flat Base X21.) <_<. Top Rated Seller Top Rated Seller. Is it okay to use the laquer if i do it lightly? It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat. Now, this is different stuff than MM flat clear. Beats the crap of out cat........crap. You can post now and register later. New (11) from $12.75 & …   Your previous content has been restored. 3.4oz (100ml) can of Tamiya Color Spray Lacquer for Plastic Models (TS-80 Gloss Clear) For Adult Modelers Only. I don't think accuflex is available any more but you can find similar products in good art or hobby stores under 'extender' or 'retarder'. Always turns out, never failed me yet and been using it for years and years. I don't know if it is as "flat" as Testors, but at least it will be compatible with your color coats. Tamiya 85080 TS-80 Matte Flat Clear Coat Spray Lacquer Paint Aerosol 100ml. or Best Offer. Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, Rick, You could look at it the way I do. I use one drop of Badger Accuflex extender in each airbrush bowl of Testors modelmaster acryl paint. $12.57 $ 12. It dries instantly and is safe over enamel or acrylic finishes. I think the testors dullcote has just a bit more sheen than acryl flat, which i like. Genius! Yeah, I was a Humbrol man untill they changed formula and only, initially, advertised it as `new formula`, with no mention of the potential harm it could do if you sprayed it on their own enamel paint. I use it to add some flat to Tamiya Smoke for wheel well weathering. ... Tamiya TAM87131 Black Planel Line Accent 4.8 out of 5 stars 1,504. it works with the rattle cans too, its just easier to get a light coat with an airbrush. Free Shipping by Amazon ... Tamiya TS-80 Clear Flat Spray 100ml. Otherwise, you can use Tamiya X-22 Clear Gloss mixed with X-21 Flat base to make a suitable acrylic flat coat. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 07:34 PM UTC. You can thin it out about 50/50. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:45 AM UTC. The only conclusion I've come up with is that I want my Polly-S flat coat back. CDN$15.99. Clear editor. I have been using 2 parts X-21 Flat Base to 3 parts Future as a flat coat for 5 years and it always gives me a perfect dead flat finish with no problems. Each can contains 100ml of paint, which is the appropriate amount for finishing one complete model. Since you like using Tamiya acrylics, Tamiya launched XF-86 Flat Clear in their acrylic mini range - 10ml bottles. I've literally spent my entire day trying to figure out a solution to the white, dusty flat coat quandary. Unless you have the spray can version, then just shake it well. You can spray lacquer over the paint and decals if you do it right. Does anyone knows the biggest difference between these two? However, they did and although I have never heard an official line from Humbrol, I assume that the withdrawal of this product by the company itself flags up the dangers of using any of these cans still in circulation. Testors dullcoat, what goes underneath it? I love the smell of dull coat in the morning. I wanted to test them out on resin and see how they looked and felt. 19d 23h left (22/6, 22:36) From United States. I don't really reccomend this product. I personally love testors dullcote, and i dont mind the smell, but if you want something friendlier, tamiya will work, just takes some pratice to get the right mix of flat base and clear. Lacquer just tends to be "hotter" than other types so you have to be careful using it over other paints. Stupid poos in the room. × Bill,sorry you are having so much trouble.I know it can be frustrating not being ablle to fix a problem.Let me ask you a few questions. Yes, Thomas, if you mist your model with Future you can save your model. 4.8 out of 5 stars 382. Customs services and international tracking provided. The more you add, the flatter it gets. Rick_Q, 1 offer from CDN$41.30. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 09:29 AM UTC. Overall it's much better to spray it on. Tamiya makes a clear flat paint that you can use instead. Beware that it requires precision mixing ratio to get the desired flat level. Therefore its a battle between me and stupid the cat. TAMIYA PS-55 Flat Clear Polycarbonate Spray 100Ml - 75-T86055. I would have accepted it was my own fault (as I have made several mistakes with varnishing in the past)in some manner of application, if other modelers and retailers were not reporting the same results. Or for brushing try … Model Master Acryl flat isn't bad either. My goal is to get as dead flat finish as possible. Stupid stinks. I find anything other than a flat clear coat … FREE Shipping on orders over … That stinks too. I did have one jar that tended to leave small white specks on the finish, but that may have been a bad batch as I haven't had that problem with subsequent jars. As far as Tamiya, I dont think they make a flat clear coat. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 09:57 PM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:09 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:21 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 09:56 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 11:25 AM UTC. I've done some more testing using the suggestions from you all, but unfortunately don't have any real progress to report. When using Tamiya Clear Flat (matt varnish, NOT Flat Base), what is the best thinning ratio for spraying, and what's the prefered thinner ? TS80 Flat Clear is useful to clear coat glossy paint finishes that you desire to have a final flat look. I had a small plastic tub (with a lid) of a desert yellow which kept liquid for 2 weeks after I added two drops of extender to the mix. × the effect seems a little less noticeable, and it … the finish is much more noticeable than the krylon in my opinion. If only varnishing was so simple...Ahhhh. Sometimes even in the cat litter. Ideal for preparing ABS and Styrene plastic for paint. Tamiya makes a flat clear. Acrylic paints dry extremely quickly which can cause the frosting effect. I have cats and I clean the litter box (thanks the wife for that! ) TS-80 Flat Clear. For my first ever post on Armorama, I'm looking for some troubleshooting assistance. 100ml of paint. I swore those off many years ago. But overall Testor Dull Coat is very nice. Get it as soon as Tue, Dec 22. Never clogged, and always comes out flat. most people who speak for and against lacquer are speaking on personal preference or paint compatibility with the other paints they use. Applying clear coat … Several applications should make the Flat Base clear again so you can apply a proper flat clear. I absolutely love David Gilmour's guitar work. C $20.68. Don't thin it at all, just drop it in the airbrush and go. Shop with confidence. Are you talking about the spray cans on the stuff in the bottles? 5.0 out of 5 stars. Altough it must be stirred & thinned well to get the best result. Well, that was a waste on an entire day. After finsihing decaling, I'm preparing to airbrush my model with a matte finish using Tamiya XF-86 Flat Clear. I use the Testors Model Master Acryl Clear Flat through my airbrush all the time, I do not thin it, I use it straight from bottle through my Paasche VL at about 18-20psi. To protect the paint and decals from the lacquer. Here's my honest advice as I've heard of this issue before. If it's some kind of spray can, you might want to wait longer though, as spray cans mist a lot more paint onto the model and usually take longer to fully cure. This went Pete Tong and they replaced the stickers with ones saying `don`t use with enamel or acrylic paint`. I can't remember the number, but the Tamiya web site would list it. Rush and Pink Floyd are my two favorites bands of all time. i much prefer mr clear, but its more expensive for a lesser quantity. Our retail location is PICKUP ONLY. Same thing with their gloss paints. If you don't have an airbrush, get some Mr Topcoat or another acrylic clear coat for best results. in which i explore the many legends of this apparently magical way of making yo model shine like a diamond in a goat's ass. My rule of thumb is: You can paint enamels and acrylics over lacquer, but not lacquers over enamels and acrylics. Find great deals on eBay for tamiya clear and tamiya clear spray. Sorry for the noob question,but I am wondering if I can spray Tamiya Lacquer(TS-13 and TS-80)from a rattle can as a gloss and flat coat over my models which are painted in Tamiya Acrylics. But if you want to create some effect for tyres, this flat base can work. C $12.05; Buy It Now +C $29.74 shipping You could try (test first) spraying a clear gloss coat in order to fill in some of the refractive parts of the flat coat. See "The Complete Future" thread in the Painting and Airbrushing Forum. Too much Flat Base causes the frosty surfaces. These spray paints were developed especially for decorating transparent polycarbonate bodies used in R/C car modeling. C $3.27. But what about yellowing, I've read on this forum where Testors MM dullcote and glosscote turn yellow over time. A heavy coat gives the solvents more time to attack the other paints. 1-16 of 49 results for "tamiya clear coat" Skip to main search results Eligible for Free Shipping. You are viewing the archived version of the site. Make sure to test clear coating over decals before applying to a finished project. Paste as plain text instead, × I have never had any issue with it at all and it dries dead flat. A closer look- Testors, Tamiya, Vallejo, and Armory. The same can be done with Future. I've used Testors dulcote for ever straight from the spray can without much problem.I had 1 hard lesson at first,that it had to be shaken very well first,my finished model was a write off as it turned into totally white dust.I am going to try something Gino suggested on another post.Modelmaster lusterless flat,#1960.I had no idea it existed and I have yet to find it. Lusterless Flat Lacquer Clear Coat Testors Customers also viewed these products. Get ready for some science experiments… Testors Clear Coat The extender does exactly what it says...extends the drying time to ensure wet paint is hitting the surface. It's also a great way of keeping a small amount of any special colors you have mixed in case you need some at the end of the build. For a small area such as that which you describe, you may wish to see if you can find a bottle of Gunze clear flat acrylic (H-20) which will be far less aggressive. 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